. the criticism particularly on the romney side is the lack of specifics. now, i don't intend that as a partisan comment. if you're a significant president you have to submit a detailed budget each year. so obama has a detailed budget that cbo scored as producing about 2.4 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years, and if you add that to what was already accomplished, you're at about 4 trillion. you can argue whether it is enough or not. depends whether you think you have to stablize the debt or reduce the debt-to-gdp ratio. but perversely, i'm not actually sure that i would want to see romney detail all the tax expenditure changes that he says he would ultimately come up with. the problem of course, is that in campaigns, if people start putting out more detailed, specific proposals, you mobilize the opposition. and there are some things in both the tax and entitlement area that ironically just kind of like the 1983 social security commission, are, better achieved if the two parties can hold hands and they don't start out being, an obama proposal or a romney proposal or a democratic proposal o